Comments on: Why I Hate Labels http://wildernessvoice.com/2007/12/why-i-hate-labels/ my thoughts, musings, rants and discoveries . . . Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:49:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Flat http://wildernessvoice.com/2007/12/why-i-hate-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 Flat Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:36:41 +0000 http://wildernessvoice.com/?p=251#comment-1062 Wow, great post....but I must stray a little from the topic and say: CONGRATULATIONS!!! I just heard the news and am very happy for you... :)
Wow, great post….but I must stray a little from the topic and say:

CONGRATULATIONS!!! I just heard the news and am very happy for you… :)

]]> By: Mike Young http://wildernessvoice.com/2007/12/why-i-hate-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-1061 Mike Young Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:49:25 +0000 http://wildernessvoice.com/?p=251#comment-1061 EE: I think accepting people as they are is certainly a key element. It's not up to make people conform one way or another. And even as a Christian, it's not up to me. It's up to God. So, if God hasn't conformed them to my standards and beliefs, who am I to judge them? Moonshadow: The funny part of admiring Jonah for his results is that he tried to avoid the calling in the first place, because of the results. He knew the prophecies regarding his people and nation being taken into captivity only 60 years or so later. If he didn't give the message, then he wouldn't be instrumental in the Assyrians having the ability to do such a thing. And I don't think we have to look to the O.T. for that. The mandate is to give thanks in ALL things for it's the will of God in Christ Jesus. However, this is a thankfulness in the sovereignty of God. We're also to have pity, mercy and compassion on those who suffer. I'm not sure I understand the last question. If it's concerning the acts of 9/11, then our revulsion is a good thing. They were acts of evil. Images of God in man were destroyed. Innocent blood was shed in a murderous fashion and God has made it clear that he will bring about his own vengeance. If it's regarding a lack of thankfulness, I can only account for my own heart on that subject. I don't know the thankfulness of others. I'd say in general, we're not usually thankful when we should be. Why should 9/11 have been any different?
EE: I think accepting people as they are is certainly a key element. It’s not up to make people conform one way or another. And even as a Christian, it’s not up to me. It’s up to God. So, if God hasn’t conformed them to my standards and beliefs, who am I to judge them?

Moonshadow: The funny part of admiring Jonah for his results is that he tried to avoid the calling in the first place, because of the results. He knew the prophecies regarding his people and nation being taken into captivity only 60 years or so later. If he didn’t give the message, then he wouldn’t be instrumental in the Assyrians having the ability to do such a thing.

And I don’t think we have to look to the O.T. for that. The mandate is to give thanks in ALL things for it’s the will of God in Christ Jesus. However, this is a thankfulness in the sovereignty of God. We’re also to have pity, mercy and compassion on those who suffer.

I’m not sure I understand the last question. If it’s concerning the acts of 9/11, then our revulsion is a good thing. They were acts of evil. Images of God in man were destroyed. Innocent blood was shed in a murderous fashion and God has made it clear that he will bring about his own vengeance.

If it’s regarding a lack of thankfulness, I can only account for my own heart on that subject. I don’t know the thankfulness of others. I’d say in general, we’re not usually thankful when we should be. Why should 9/11 have been any different?

]]> By: Moonshadow http://wildernessvoice.com/2007/12/why-i-hate-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-1060 Moonshadow Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:38:21 +0000 http://wildernessvoice.com/?p=251#comment-1060 I was unaware of WBC's M.O. so this was enlightening and thought-provoking. To my mind, categorizing Jonah as "fire & brimstone" was always obscured by an intense admiration for his results! But, as long as we're talking Old Testament figures, if we were as faithful as Job, wouldn't we "thank God for 9/11?" (Job 1:21-22) Does the gut-wrenching revulsion that wells up in our spirits at the mere thought of such a sentiment tell us how far we are from desiring God's will?
I was unaware of WBC’s M.O. so this was enlightening and thought-provoking.

To my mind, categorizing Jonah as “fire & brimstone” was always obscured by an intense admiration for his results!

But, as long as we’re talking Old Testament figures, if we were as faithful as Job, wouldn’t we “thank God for 9/11?” (Job 1:21-22)

Does the gut-wrenching revulsion that wells up in our spirits at the mere thought of such a sentiment tell us how far we are from desiring God’s will?

]]> By: EE http://wildernessvoice.com/2007/12/why-i-hate-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 EE Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:36:04 +0000 http://wildernessvoice.com/?p=251#comment-1057 I think Fred Phelps and his brain washed followers hide behind their 'religion' to spread their ridiculous hate and nastiness. It's absolutely naseating to me, as well as infuriating. What happened to being accepting of others even if they are not exactly like ourselves, isn't that what makes the world go round...that eveyone is unique???? I find it really pathetic that there are so many people who use their religion as an 'excuse' to look down on, pass judgement on/over and have such bent views. What is most sad though is it makes people like me, who already have had a bad taste of religion shoved down their throat, withdraw even further from the idea (of religion). Fortunately I have someone like you to show me that it's possible for it to NOT have to be like that.....
I think Fred Phelps and his brain washed followers hide behind their ‘religion’ to spread their ridiculous hate and nastiness.

It’s absolutely naseating to me, as well as infuriating.

What happened to being accepting of others even if they are not exactly like ourselves, isn’t that what makes the world go round…that eveyone is unique????

I find it really pathetic that there are so many people who use their religion as an ‘excuse’ to look down on, pass judgement on/over and have such bent views. What is most sad though is it makes people like me, who already have had a bad taste of religion shoved down their throat, withdraw even further from the idea (of religion).

Fortunately I have someone like you to show me that it’s possible for it to NOT have to be like that…..

]]> By: Mike Young http://wildernessvoice.com/2007/12/why-i-hate-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 Mike Young Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:04:08 +0000 http://wildernessvoice.com/?p=251#comment-1055 Gordan: Well... Actually, I do find the guy, his followers and what they do to be rather deplorable. Hate, hmm... Let's just say I won't judge you ;)
Gordan: Well…

Actually, I do find the guy, his followers and what they do to be rather deplorable. Hate, hmm… Let’s just say I won’t judge you ;)

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